1. America is about being your own person, determining your own fortunes
2.Auto Unions, while a necessary evil, have grown greedy--killing American competitiveness
3. GM, Ford and Chrysler would benefit from Bankruptcy because it would allow them to restructure without Unionized labor--it will not affect thier production any more than a subsidized deal will.
4. Any bail-out $ will go straight to paying already overpaid unionized workers.
5. Bailouts are not always unAmerican, but this one is.

"The American Dream is that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement...but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."
Unions are Un-American
Plumbers, carmakers and many other employments that the rest of the world could and would gladly do for a fraction of the wage are usually unionized in the U.S. Just as current big company CEO salaries are often a good example of excess and indirect plunder of companies, Unions represent the same thing from the other extreme. Unions are not made up of persons who are hell bent on rising through their own individual merit, To the contrary, unions, once established, tend to be very corrupt and intimidate and discriminate against any non-union colleagues who dare go it alone and be recognized upon thier own distinguishable skill.
So are Parasitic Executives who Plunder Established Companies
Unions like CEOs invariably inflate their own salaries far beyond what the market says they are worth–but Americans tend to ignore it because Union workers aren’t ever going to be rich–just overcompensated.
And compensation is the problem. When there is an alternative, Americans don’t support Unions, we buy the cheaper alternative--a Toyota. Unions have killed the Big Three– Sucked any excess from them, any opportunity to reinvest in the next generation of vehicles, so that they could guarantee themselves incredibly greedy wages.
Unions like CEOs invariably inflate their own salaries far beyond what the market says they are worth–but Americans tend to ignore it because Union workers aren’t ever going to be rich–just overcompensated.
And compensation is the problem. When there is an alternative, Americans don’t support Unions, we buy the cheaper alternative--a Toyota. Unions have killed the Big Three– Sucked any excess from them, any opportunity to reinvest in the next generation of vehicles, so that they could guarantee themselves incredibly greedy wages.
Example: When Ford was in trouble three years ago (it was Chrysler three years before that), it absolutely had to downsize it’s workforce. But the Auto Union wouldn’t let it. Ford needed to build some international factories in order to enter international markets, but the Unions wouldn’t let them. How do the Unions prevent it? By buying ad space and telling everyone that Ford is shipping jobs overseas...when in fact Ford was not shipping jobs overseas but instead creating them overseas. They also threatened to strike. And if you are a union member and don’t want to strike, well, that’s too damn bad. The first time? Ford was forced to pay laid off workers two years of salary at 90% plus benefits, which, if you take advantage of all those benefits (knowing they won’t be around after two years) comes out to $70/hr for two years. This, for non-college educated factory workers who are paid $8-$14/hr in another developed country--Japan, where cheaper Toyotas come from.
No Wonder Your Ford Costs More for Less
Now you know why your Ford is more expensive, because you are paying for high school educated guys to make $25/hr to do what anyone else in the developed world will do for 30% less.
The next time Ford needed to lay off workers because it needed to close its antiquated Norfolk plant. But creditors, looking at Ford’s already enormous pension liabilities, refused to allow it to add to it’s long term debt.
The Union demanded, and won, lump sum severance payments of $100,000 per worker, plus benefits for a year and college tuition. Insane. "I just hope we get as much as other plants get," said Chris Kimmons, president of United Auto Workers Local 919, which represents the Norfolk Ford workers. Are you insane Chris? Other plants get that? That is insane and unsustainable. Doctors don’t get that. Lawyers don’t get that...true Americans do not get that. Loyal employees making a minimum base salary of $20-$26/hr don’t ask for that. Greedy, corrupt and unreasonably spoiled Unions do.
The Real Skinny--Any Bailout for Autos is a Direct Subsidy of Unions
And now, the United Auto Workers, combined with their horrible and overpaid executives (CEO making $2.2 million this past year...as his company burned; while Toyota’s CEO has never made more than $1 million in a year), have sucked the Leviathan dry...GM motors is going bankrupt. The piggy bank is broken. And they want the U.S. to pay for it--you and me.
And now, the United Auto Workers, combined with their horrible and overpaid executives (CEO making $2.2 million this past year...as his company burned; while Toyota’s CEO has never made more than $1 million in a year), have sucked the Leviathan dry...GM motors is going bankrupt. The piggy bank is broken. And they want the U.S. to pay for it--you and me.
You see, if GM goes bankrupt, all pensions and other benefit payments promised to Union workers evaporate.
When the host dies, so does the parasite.
BUT, if they get bailed out, all of those parasitic employee benefits remain, (albeit renegotiated). So, this bailout isn’t about saving GM, GM will survive no matter what–bankruptcy is not the end. It is about bailing out the Union. It will not improve GM nearly as much as bankruptcy might (bankruptcy can free them of the Unions!) I can’t support this bailout. It will happen anyway–cause Congress, in spite of their show, doesn’t listen to Americans nearly as closely as special interests, but it is Un-American anyway.

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